I love the pattern, and the quality of the china, BUT the salad plate is really too big for a salad plate and too small for a dinner plate. The dinner plates in this pattern are 11 1/2", too big to fit in my standard 11 inch cabinets, or even in my dishwasher, so I couldn't use them. Make the dinner plates available in 10 3/4 inches and I will gladly buy 8 of them.