Ordered these are a present for my husband for Father's Day coming up. Loved the dark gray color it showed, and liked that it would hide some marks. Just got them by UPS and um....not dark gray! They are a lighter gray. Pretty color (elephant or dolphin gray is what I would call it) but not what was shown on the website. I don't have time to return and order more, as Father's Day is next week. Also, can't find a size 13 in store. Knowing him though, he won't like the light color. I gave 3 stars because of the color discrepancy. Also, I don't recommend based only on the color discrepancy. Otherwise, they are good shoes. Not letting me upload an image, or I would show you the color that came.
