I have a pair of black 2XT I'm happy with. I ordered a pair of navy and a heather gray. Length good on both pairs.. The gray is very light, appearing to be the oxford gray even though marked as heather. Otherwise ok. The navy are thinner material, only 60% cotton. The waistband is stretched out , the pockets are undersized, and there is a hole in one of them. Planning to return both pairs.